I am not sure how many of you have experienced the real power of GST.
I was forced to get a GST registration as part of am empanelment requirement for a MNC firm where I plan to provide executive coaching services even though I don't think in this Janam I will reach the Rs 20 Lakhs per year threshold for a GST registration number from my coaching and consulting services.
However the MNC rules are what it is and you have to comply period. No arguments!!
I managed to get my GST registration with the help of a consultant. Initially I thought I will go the DIY way - study the manual, read FAQs, Watch youtube videos. After all the effort I found I was making no headway and took the consultant route. The consultant obviously did this for a fee even though I have no "Dhandha" or revenue to show till date. I have had multiple meetings in the last 6 months with my client but so far I have not scored the most important single and opened my account. I felt like Rahul Dravid with his famous solid defence in the 2001-2 test against England in Bangalore. At least he took only 61 balls to score 3 runs while I am still trying to get my first single.
Now comes the fun part. I kept getting SMSes from GSTIND asking me which option I am choosing for filing my return. Since I did not have any income to show I decided to ignore. They persisted and finally I gave in and opted for monthly return - GSTR3B.
I decided to do nothing much now that SMSes stopped. Anyway I was still playing defensively forward- No Single, No Dhandha, No revenue still!!
A new set of SMSes started checking with me whether I have filed the return or not.I was under the impression no income- no return like IT returns. However the SMSes persisted and I decided to check with my consultant.
What she told me was an eye opener. She said even though you have no income you have to file a return declaring nil income - Not sure whether the finance minister is adding all this to show an inflated number of tax payers as part of the "Acche Din " program.
So having left with no other option but to start filing my return I asked what would be her service charges. She said it would cost me Rs 2000 per month. I decided to once again go the DIY way. Once again skimmed through the manuals and watched multiple youtube videos some in Hindi, some in Hinglish from CA's from Delhi to Darbanga.
I tried filing using the knowledge I had gained in the DIY method.
Here comes the power of GST- Even though you have no revenue and you declare that you have no revenue if you delay filing you return claiming you have nil revenue you still end up paying a late fee of Rs 20 per day (Rs 10 for state and Rs 10 for centre) with a cap of Rs 5000. All this for zero revenue.
In my DIY experiment I had overshot the November deadline by 30 days which means a late fee of Rs 600 which I paid. Now I tried filing my return but wouldn't allow me inspite of various options suggested onYoutube.
Like a true IT support professional I raised a ticket with the GST help desk with a screen shot and other details of my problem. I got a quick response within 24 hours and advised me to read the manual properly as the solution and the ticket was promptly closed.
Reluctantly I once again went back to my consultant and she after checking with a SME she told me that I have paid under the wrong category. I should have paid under Fees rather than penalty. She also told me to file for a refund and pay the late fee in the right category. ( My experience of how difficult or easy it is going to be will be my next story).
In all this the late fee meter had moved and I ended up paying Rs 860 ( a delay of 43 days) all for zero revenue. Finally I filed my return November - Late fee - Rs 860 - Income Zero, December - Late Fee Rs 200 - Income Zero again.
I am wondering if this the trouble an IT aware , computer literate person had to go through what would the experience of an " Aam Admi business man " who was happily doing his Dhandha on cash basis now that he/she is forced on the GST wagon.
I was forced to get a GST registration as part of am empanelment requirement for a MNC firm where I plan to provide executive coaching services even though I don't think in this Janam I will reach the Rs 20 Lakhs per year threshold for a GST registration number from my coaching and consulting services.
However the MNC rules are what it is and you have to comply period. No arguments!!
I managed to get my GST registration with the help of a consultant. Initially I thought I will go the DIY way - study the manual, read FAQs, Watch youtube videos. After all the effort I found I was making no headway and took the consultant route. The consultant obviously did this for a fee even though I have no "Dhandha" or revenue to show till date. I have had multiple meetings in the last 6 months with my client but so far I have not scored the most important single and opened my account. I felt like Rahul Dravid with his famous solid defence in the 2001-2 test against England in Bangalore. At least he took only 61 balls to score 3 runs while I am still trying to get my first single.
Now comes the fun part. I kept getting SMSes from GSTIND asking me which option I am choosing for filing my return. Since I did not have any income to show I decided to ignore. They persisted and finally I gave in and opted for monthly return - GSTR3B.
I decided to do nothing much now that SMSes stopped. Anyway I was still playing defensively forward- No Single, No Dhandha, No revenue still!!
A new set of SMSes started checking with me whether I have filed the return or not.I was under the impression no income- no return like IT returns. However the SMSes persisted and I decided to check with my consultant.
What she told me was an eye opener. She said even though you have no income you have to file a return declaring nil income - Not sure whether the finance minister is adding all this to show an inflated number of tax payers as part of the "Acche Din " program.
So having left with no other option but to start filing my return I asked what would be her service charges. She said it would cost me Rs 2000 per month. I decided to once again go the DIY way. Once again skimmed through the manuals and watched multiple youtube videos some in Hindi, some in Hinglish from CA's from Delhi to Darbanga.
I tried filing using the knowledge I had gained in the DIY method.
Here comes the power of GST- Even though you have no revenue and you declare that you have no revenue if you delay filing you return claiming you have nil revenue you still end up paying a late fee of Rs 20 per day (Rs 10 for state and Rs 10 for centre) with a cap of Rs 5000. All this for zero revenue.
In my DIY experiment I had overshot the November deadline by 30 days which means a late fee of Rs 600 which I paid. Now I tried filing my return but wouldn't allow me inspite of various options suggested onYoutube.
Like a true IT support professional I raised a ticket with the GST help desk with a screen shot and other details of my problem. I got a quick response within 24 hours and advised me to read the manual properly as the solution and the ticket was promptly closed.
Reluctantly I once again went back to my consultant and she after checking with a SME she told me that I have paid under the wrong category. I should have paid under Fees rather than penalty. She also told me to file for a refund and pay the late fee in the right category. ( My experience of how difficult or easy it is going to be will be my next story).
In all this the late fee meter had moved and I ended up paying Rs 860 ( a delay of 43 days) all for zero revenue. Finally I filed my return November - Late fee - Rs 860 - Income Zero, December - Late Fee Rs 200 - Income Zero again.
I am wondering if this the trouble an IT aware , computer literate person had to go through what would the experience of an " Aam Admi business man " who was happily doing his Dhandha on cash basis now that he/she is forced on the GST wagon.